Thursday, March 20, 2014

Huzzah Hobbies RTT March 16th Recap, Crimson Slaughter / Imperial knights thoughts.

So before anything else.
Please note that next months RTT will be held April 13th, as Easter is the 3rd Sunday of April, so we will be using the 2nd Sunday just for next month.

So quick recap of the RTT of march 16th.

By win-loss - with two undefeated, the higher BP undefeated won first.

1st place - Joseph with his crimson slaughter and chaos daemons
2nd place - Brad with ovesa star

By Battle Points

1st - Robert with his deamon FMC
2nd - Pierre with his eldar
3rd - Kevin with his Tyranids

Now I will note, I messed up the BP on ToF for the last round because I'm a retard. Kevin and Pierre were only 1 point away from each other, due to my screw up, I mis-calculated Kevin as the top of that 1 point difference, when it was in fact Pierre. So I will be retrieving another 2nd place BP prize for Pierre for next RTT to hand off. Kevin, as he did totally awesome with his tyranids, will keep his prize and have it renamed "super epic tyranid bro's player award".

Innovation award - This went to Chris, who was using imperial knights. He thoughtfully had large shield symbols to show his opponents the exact facings being covered by the shield. This was very useful and a nice consideration for his opponents.

Midpack - Was decided by a roll-off between Charlie and matt, and went to Charlie

Now some thoughts about the event.

Void shield generator thingy went over well. So for future events, a void shield generator will be allowed. with the provision it is not a networked system. Thank you to Jon who voluntarily tested it.

Imperial Knights- pretty powerful, those of you out there saying they are easy to beat have clearly not been playing them right, or vs. a good player. Chris rampaged at the RTT with them, however he was nocked out by a deamon FMC player, who was able to out-maneuver him. Interviewing his opponents after the games revealed a little annoyance at the imperial knights, but nothing more than I'd expect than someone who had just matched a seer council. I think its to early to tell if these guys should be banned or not, so for the present time, I'll continue to allow them.

I just wish GW wasn't as retarded about this whole ally thing. They need to stop breaking their own FoC's, and coming up with these super dex's that only benefit imperial or "good" armies.

I will mention, playing as a ringer, I allied an imperial knight with my CSM crimson slaughter (super illegal, I know!) and Jon used hive crones to vector strike it to death by bottom of turn 2 or 3.

Crimson Slaughter - This book is pretty solid, and by book, I basically mean the relics. Having possessed as troops is decent, they're super pricey and tend to die easily. You can fit about 30 into a list at 1850 if your rhino'ing up and take other units like maulers and helldrakes. They suffer from the same thing every marine does, forcing a volume of saves eliminates them pretty quickly. I don't think running them on foot is a good idea. Rhinos give one turn of protection or movement distance to get you closer. Overall I would recommend sticking with tried and true cultists, unless you want to base an army around possessed. I will be dropping my black legion allies though to take crimson slaughter, no doubt about that. The divination psyker is a decent thought. There may be something to taking CS primary, and taking a nurgle psyker / rolling for divination. Take an AP2 force axe, and now you've got two characters who can go around instant deathing. If you get lucky in your rolling, maybe some good buffs for the spawn.

Worth a thought.

So I don't really like the idea of D-weapons and imperial knights in the game. However I do like the model quite a bit. So I picked one up from huzzah and have been painting it up. I finished basing the bulk of it, and washed it. Now I need to drybrush then start highlighting. You may be wondering why I washed the flat surfaces of the model. I am theorizing it'll turn out looking nice after I start drybrushing. If not.. oh well!


  1. Once again a successful RTT!!! Think everyone had a great time and again a awesome turnout ( 18 players, +2 T.O. ringers :))

    Also congrats James on a great article!!

  2. Enjoyed being your guinea pig for the Void Shield. BTW are you going to revise the size specs now that there's an 'official' model?

  3. A fun RTT as always! Thanks again for running these!

  4. A great RTT and my first at Huzzah. I highly recommend it to anyone, as it is the nicest FLGS in DC/VA/MD area. Good times!

  5. Hey, quick follow up about the the Knights. I played at a 3 round tournament yesterday at Game Vault and, along with another player, brought three knights as primary. I got second with a 2-0-1 record, and the other player went 2-1. I lost two knights on rounds 1 & 3 to IG and Tau shooting respectively. The other player lost all three knights quickly in round 3 on table 1 to a pure sisters player, via melta and exorcist shooting.

  6. Thank ye all for the comments. Thank you Chris also for the follow up about imperial knights. Thus far, based on your feedback I think it's a manageable codex. We should allow it, but i'm very worried about the slippery slope prospects given how GW is going.

    @ Jon - Yes, you may remodel the voidshield to be approximately the size and shape of the one GW has sold, in addition to the dimensions I listed. It looks like its a bit bigger than a rhino at the base, and the LOS blocking aspect is about 2 & 1/2 marines high. Beyond that its just some cover but not LOS Blocking. If you want to build a new model to roughly those dimensions its fine with me. I' wasn't able to order one unfortunately so don't know the exact dimensions, just basing it on the picture.

  7. Sorry I did not reply earlier.
    Had a blast, thanks for running as always. I look forward to this each month :P

    James, we both know you gave my BPs to Pierre to make sure another CSM player does not win a match, you jealous bastard! =x